I had a bad day today.
A variety of things contributed to it, most of them not worth wasting your time with. It was a crappy day, a day devoted to making other people happy but for me quite taxing and extremely unrewarding. I had one thing to look forward to, the cherry on top.
Justin and I were going to see the midnight showing of Legion, both to fuel our next podcast and so I could get a review in front of you folks before lunchtime tomorrow. Expectations were low for the film, but there were good odds at the worst it’d give us a lot of material. Plus it featured people mutating, and I am a fan of such things. I decided this weekend not to pre-purchase tickets online as much anymore. I can count on one hand the amount of times in the past five years the tactic prevented us from being turned away at a theater. There are so many screens these days that unless it’s the current 3-D sensation that is selling theaters chances are slim something’s going to sell out or even force the audience to sit in bad seats. Screenings, yes. Oftentimes they fill up quick and seats are crappy. Arthouse films, sometimes. If there’s a film only playing at one screen, maybe it’s wise to pre-purchase.
But otherwise, all it’s done in the past was make me pay a service charge for no reason.
I checked to make sure there was to be a midnight showing and there was. Granted I’d have to drive to a theater in an odd location in an area that borders on seedy on a rainy night after a long day of cigar smoke and being on my feet, but it was going to be worth it. I didn’t buy the tickets because there was a 1 in 6,039,284 chance of it being sold out.
I hustle ass to the theater after closing the shop and on the way see a really horrible car accident being cleaned up after. Not a good night to drive.
The door is locked. The kiosk in front shows no trace of the 12:05am or 12:15am showtimes I had glimpsed at 6:00am this morning. A few others show up, one with a printout of the showtime with them, which plainly showcased the theater we were at and the showtime. Justin arrives as we get the attention of a manager roaming the lobby.
“We canceled midnight showings. Corporate made a decision to cancel them.”
That’s it. I’ve just spent 30 minutes driving at 11:30 at night in the rain to have a guy tell me that their company up and decided to shitcan the midnight movie program.
Logic tells me that if corporate is going to do away with the concept it’d do away with them once their commitment to ONE MORE DAY OF THEM and then not advertise them the following week, not assume that no one saw the listings that had been there all along. You have a group (granted, a small one but still) of people who have made the effort to be there at the advertised time. You don’t just turn them away. You have to honor that. It’s one of the cornerstones customer service is built on.
Nope. He then ushers us inside to give us free tickets, which are useless. There is his boss, who is as blase and indifferent as can be, a feat since I worked under the most blase and indifferent theater manager ever back in 1989-90. He says ‘corporate decided not to do them anymore’ as if that had any bearing. We showed up, in this era and economy a customer is a rather special thing. Something to truly bend over backwards for. He gave less than a shit about the people who had showed up to a screening they were having, money in hand. It wasn’t a private promo screening. It was a showtime we were paying $11.00 for.
I took point, because this was my cherry on top of a shitty day. And I had just driven from Suwanee to get there. I passed three damn movie theaters on the way to this theater.
The guy had the gall to tell me it’s my job to keep checking the showtimes throughout the day. As if it’s our job. As if we should just keep refreshing in case they get a wild hair up their ass to kill an advertised showtime.
You need to honor that commitment. Even if it means staying an extra two hours… oh wait, they were already scheduled for those two extra hours…
They offered us free passes for our efforts, and since most people think that getting free shit is the best thing in the world, some people were rebuffed. If you devote your time to an advertised event, and that event disappears, you are owed more than a ticket. Especially at midnight on a rainy day on roads overrun with cops.
And he handled it poorly. Didn’t even get up. Just acted like we fucked up because we were dumb enough to do the research about the showtime and make the effort to be there. Just an all-around horrible job.
Regal Entertainment Group is a huge company. I have given them thousands of dollars over the years and CHUD has sponsored untold amounts of screenings in their theaters over the ten years we’ve been doing screenings. The theater down the street from my home is a Regal. And I’m pretty laid-back about stuff. This got to me. Partially because I had a sense of obligation to get a review up. Partially because I am pretty anal about making sure movie showtimes and stuff are locked in. Partially because I NEEDED IT TONIGHT. I really did.
They should have made the effort to provide the film. Projectionists oftentimes have to check the film the night before it opens. Every manager knows how to run the projector. They should have realized that we’d done everything right and to turn us away may not mean anything to them, since they’re just pawns in some corporation’s game.
What they did was nothing. Free tickets aren’t as valuable as time. As the gas we spent getting there. As having to turn around and deal with the roads again unfulfilled and fuming. It’s bullshit. It’s laziness. It’s bad customer service. The only reason we were there is because they created a showtime for us to come to. They promoted it, we came. Regal should have honored the showtime and then if they were going to get rid of midnight movies, wait until the following week when they hadn’t yet advertised them.
My ticket alone isn’t a loss for them. But you never know when someone you treat like crap has a voice that actually has a reach in the industry, at least on a local level. I’m mulling my next move but I can tell you right now…
Regal Hollywood 24 off hwy 85 will not be getting my business again. I’ve seen dozens upon dozens of movies there. I will never spend a dime there again. On the best of nights I’d be furious at the inconvenience. Tonight, it’s tragic. I just have to decide how wide my personal vendetta again the chain is going to be and how many of you I might need to enlist in bringing their fuck-up to them.
But you aren’t getting a Legion review unless I can pull something together in the morning. I have an option but it’s going to inconvenience me even more if I do. I just don’t know. But Regal’s corporate decision to banish midnight movies that they’ve already scheduled is a big fuck-up. If it’s made as a cost-cutting move it’s going to bite them in the ass, but in lacking both the common sense to honor their commitment to tonight and in doing a shitty rush job in its execution, they have lost a rather sizable customer with a really loud voice.
Now I can go to bed.





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FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT NUNZ!
Sorry about your experience, but I don't think anybody was clamoring for a Legion review. Oh, and customer service is deader than Jay Leno's street cred.
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It's like when some punk dipshit thinks he can mug an old guy and finds out he's an ex-SEAL. Trachea punch!
I jab at you quite often in these talkbacks. Sometimes it's justified. Sometimes I'm probably just being a dick. But CHUD is still my favorite site regardless of how much I bash you and you are absolutely correct on this matter. Regal annoys me on many levels and I'm tired of these very few major chains imposing their will on me. There are only 5 theaters in my city – one small indie that I support vehemently, one second run pub and the other three are owned by Regal. The others in the closest cities near me are owned by Regal. They wouldn't let me see a movie like The Hurt Locker, yet tied up the rights for three months before letting the indie theater show it. They force Christian propaganda films and Glenn Beck concerts onto screens instead of showing me films I want to see. They put shit like Paul Blart on five fucking screens. Fuck Regal. My ticket may not mean much either, but I've got your back on this. Regal no longer gets my buck. I go to the indie theater. I'll wait a month or two and go to the second run pub or wait for DVD. Hell, I'll drive an hour or so to a non-Regal theater. These local Regal theaters though? I'm done with 'em. Like anything else, it's time people start voting with their dollars because that's the only vote that counts.
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The same thing happened to me for 30 Days of Night. Never had a problem with AMC, though.
@ Mr.Nunziata i feel your anger as i to have been spurned by Regal Theaters for bullshit reasons
@ Real Keith i agree that noone was eagerly anticipating a legion review but its about what happened at the theater not about the quality of the film
@ A Little Perspective: im sure this is what he had in mind when writing the article "ha ha this'll show all those little whiney bitches down in Haiti who really has it rough" clearly his goal was to one up the devastated country and…. no wait… his goal was to vent his frustration at giant corporation that seems not to care about neglecting and shunning the very lifeblood of their company: the customers and he has every right to be angry at them and let people know about it, so shut the fuck up and stop bringing up nonsensical interjections into situations that dont need them, as this is a movie site, let me repeat that incase you didnt realize it the first time, MOVIE SITE, NOT a worldwide news site, its about escaping into a world of something you love not watching what a mess the world truly is and seeing it slowly crumble and depress yourself, so please take you attention grabbing hide elsewhere, like Haiti.
@ Joe: huh?
Sorry you guys don't have a Alamo out there. This makes me realize how much I take that wonderful place for granted….something I shan't do again.
Atta boy, Nunz. I never go to Regal theaters in Los Angeles because… well, never been a reason. But next time I'm near one, I'll spit on it. Or think of spitting on it.
In the meantime, seriously, it's not like you need to kill yourself for Legion. Unless that one moment in the trailer where the ice cream man from the 1950's mutates into Bruce Spence holds some kind of hint to the hidden treasures of amazement found in that movie. Then I want to know. If that's just a freakishly weird moment in an otherwise bland and boring "I WANT TO BE EPIC SO BAD! LOOK AT MY CG BATTLE! LOOK AT IT! GRRR!" movie, don't bother even posting a review.
I'm a manager at Cinemark and let me the the one to break the news to you. They were lying through their teeth!!!!! This has happened so many times in my industry and I'll tell you what it it. The showing probably hadn't sold hardly any tickets up to the night of the screening (ours hadn't either) and they got all excited and decided not to show it since no one was buying tickets. People in theatres HATE working midnight shows, esspecially for movies no one gives a crap about (Legion) so they just lied through their teeth to anyone who did pay for tickets just so they wouldn't have to stay that entire time. This happens a lot in movie theatres due to selfish, idiotic management. I'm sorry you had to experience that. We would've shown you the proper treatment, and the movie, had you come to my theatre!
I know what you mean about "needing" it. Your customer service levels are actually a little better than they are in Australia. All bets seem to be off on any session outside of core evening slots. Never been offered a free ticket either.
…and you thought it was a coincidence that "Regal Theaters" rhymed with "grave-raping cunts."
I made a decision to stop going to Hollywood 24 last year. Almost every single fucking time I go there, a bunch of kids walk in during the middle of the movie and never shut the fuck up; it's almost as if parents turn their kids loose there in lieu of getting a babysitter. I'm not surprised that happened. Fuck that place.
That's a shitty situation, to be sure, but the solution would be for the manager to directly defy his boss? Don't people lose their jobs when they do stuff like that?
Haha. What did you expect? A BJ? Sure, the theater sucks for cancelling the showing, but it sounds like you're projecting because of your bad day. It happens. It's "Legion" after all. They probably did you a favor.
Travis might be right. Most theaters are run by unprofessional children. It is some asshole trying to get home early. The fact he said this came from corporate, saying the company he works for care so little about their customer…. Get a hold of Regal and get a dipshit manager fired. That shit is out of line.
@Andy: Go suck a dick you racist fucking cunt.
Nunz, that's shitty treatment by a shitty company with awful management. I'm happy to be in an area with a plethora of excellent AMC Theaters. Some chains don't deserve your time, your money, or your consideration, convient showtimes be damned.
They did, however, do you a favor. It's good for 30 minutes, entertaining for about 20, and ends with 10 minutes of aborted fetuses…fetusi…fetusai…and that doesn't add up to the runtime, the rest isn't even worth classification.
Nick- I appreciate the attempt to see it and write a review. I've been reading CHUD for years, and as much as I like getting my film news here, it's the reviews that set this site apart for me. Living in LA, I've seen Devin at quite a few screenings, and I'm saddened when he chosesnot to review something on the site.
My worst online ticket sale story involved me driving 50 minutes in the rain to the only theatre in town (Washington, DC) playing Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I got to the theatre, printout of my payment in hand, and they'd cancelled my screening to put Harry Potter on another screen (as it was opening that day and selling out other screens). Not even so much as a free ticket for my time. Didn't even get back the service charge. Worst part about it, I felt obliged to go back 3 days later so I could actually see the film on the big screen.
I agree with #12, they probably didn't sell enough tickets. How do I know? The local Regal here in Orlando was open and alive last night at midnight. (My nearest Regal sits 10 minutes from the UCF campus, so it is always packed.)
There is already a ton of reviews popping up on Regal's website from people who went to midnight showings.
Sounds like you got lied to. Please tell me you got the managers name.
I have not been to that Theater since I saw Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. That place seems like someone is gonna get shot walking through the parking lot. Probably too far for you but AMC 24 off Barrett Pkwy is much better.
I worked at a Regal (@ Oak Hollow Mall in High Point NC) when I was in college. Corporate does not give the slightest fuck about you. They want your money, sure, but they know that you not coming back (you being the average customer, not Nick N, owner of Chud) is not going to have any affect on sales in the grand scheme of things. There's always someone else who's happy to shell out cash to talk through a movie in hopes of getting a handy from his preteen gf. That will never go away.
Haha I love how people aren't allowed to complain about anything else because there was an earthquake in some third world shithole. Eventually we'll help dig them out, build them back up, and as thanks they'll just go back to cutting each other up with machetes. I wish it would sink into the ocean already so we can get on with things.
Right on, Nick. I'm on the east coast and I generally don't see many Regal Cinemas around here. This is a Cinemark area and I've never had a complaint about their service or their presentation…in particular, the Tinseltown on 4400 Towne Center Dr in Louisville (which takes me an hour to get to). There's not too much choice in the area I live. There are two theatres in two cities nearby (each about 20-30 mins away). They get my money sometimes, but when it comes to big releases I've been waiting months for, I go to where the quality counts. But for your sake, if I do happen to pass a Regal Cinema on my travels in the future, I'll be sure to get out, walk up to the box office and spit on the window. I might even offer a smile post-spittle and say "Nick sent me."
What #12 said — they were bullshitting you because they didn't want to work late. Not that it's any excuse, or anything that you could have done to change things. And not that you shouldn't avoid this theater in the future. But, yeah, they were bullshitting you.
I completely understand – Regal blows. A few years back I went to the one in Douglasville, GA (about 30 minutes from the one you're talking about here) and dealt with another power-hungry manager on an ego trip. My friends and I used the credit card kiosk to buy our tickets only to realize that we had accidentally hit the senior/kids button. We figured, oh well, and presented them to the usher anyway. This insane dick in a suit asked to see our tickets, said we'd done it on purpose and said he could have us arrested for "theft of services." He tried to make us go back to the b.o. and buy the right tickets. We told him to shove it and asked for a refund. I'm sure he slept soundly that night, knowing that he saved his theater from bankruptcy over a $1 difference in ticket prices.
I agree; I think they lied
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the entire Regal corporation hasn't abandoned showing movies at midnight.
Nick, I have a friend who's one of the managers at a Regal here in Charlotte. He hates Regal as much as you do and constantly complains that corporate could care less about the condition of the theater and the customers, and what a terrible company it is to work for. But at least I know he does his job well, because he complains about the 2 people who might show up to a late night showing of something like Tooth Fairy that cause him have to stay late (i.e. he shows them the film! Novel concept.).
What also pisses me off too is when they do a midnight showing for a very popular movie, and it's the one screen and they sell out and turn people away, when the VERY NEXT DAY it's playing on two or three screens. Would it kill them to fire up another projector? Why do I have to twist their arm to increase their profits?!?!
Shit happens man. Stop crying on the internet, that has never done anything. Please realize that there are people in the world that are being pulled out from under fucking rubble. You not being able to see a shitty movie probably doesn't rank high on my "give a fuck" scale.
Grow a pair.
I'm a manager at a Regal, and I can back up the "corporate doesn't care" thing. It's not about us not wanting to work late, as we (we=usual Thursday night closing crew) ALWAYS work late on Thursdays and a midnight "Legion" would have been done before we were out anyway. It's usually more about payroll and stuff like that (even if we didn't have extra employees come in, the ones that WERE there would have stayed longer), as we are smack dab in the middle of one of the less busier times of the year, and we're in the 'burbs where midnight shows don't impact our business too much, except for maybe major releases. Also, we don't always have the staff for it anyway, as everyone has different availability and we also have a lot of high school kids and minors that aren't allowed to work past a certain time on school nights. I'm sure it's very rarely ever turned out that someone not making it into a midnight show (whether it was legit sold out or just canceled) has just decided "Fuck it, I guess I'm NEVER seeing it!". We even had to scrap a midnight of "Terminator" back in May, which we were pissed about after having to do after heavily hype our midnight show, but we had roughly ZERO tickets sold for it by the time the decision was made a couple of days before. In the end, it didn't hurt us. I like working midnight shows, as I might get some extra hours, and the deader the show, the easier the shift. Money for nothing, right? However, when we did the midnight opening for "New Moon", we sold out 6 auditoriums, using only 2 prints and a hell of a lot of interlocking. Because of that, we even scheduled some 3 a.m. shows. Most insane shit ever, most people in the building at one time ever, and corporate said we STILL could have made cuts. So, when a midnight showing of "Legion" gets canned due to lack of interest, I can completely understand. Yeah, for someone that was really looking forward to to it, it sucks, and I'm sorry if your review didn't make it in on time to make the first page of Rotten Tomatoes, but life goes on. Best thing I can recommend, now that you know that this can happen, is call ahead to make sure there's still a show. Cancellations never happen last minute, it might be by 6 or whenever the shift change is, and the people AT the theater will always know. I'm sure that theaters in other chains that are in the suburbs/smaller markets where there isn't any direct competition are just as much of a slave to their corporate handlers as we are, and the worst part is, even though we know the reason why decisions like this are made ($$$$$$$$$$), they never flat out tell us. They tell us it's all about providing great customer service or whatever (I'm sorry if you were a victim to genuinely shitty customer service), they talk to us like WE are the customers and not the ones responsible for making them money, but then we get reprimanded for having enough people on hand to handle any contingency. That is never going to change. Your complaining to management (justified in this case, which is refreshing after most of the baseless shit we have to hear) isn't going to change policy unfortunately, as our complaining to our bosses, who never have to deal with customer complaints firsthand, will never change anything either.
God damn, Nick… has some fucking dignity for once.
@#33 Shut the fuck up dude. It's his fucking site, he can complain about what he wants to. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. That's one of the things wrong with customer service today, no one gives a shit and if people speak up about it, they get shouted down. Seriously, shut the fuck up.
Thankfully we don't have any Regal establishments where I live. We have mostly Carmike (which is probably worse). 20 minutes of ads before you even get to the trailers and the worst…service…ever. Thankfully, we have one Cinemark, which is heaven by comparison. All the ad bullshit takes place before the scheduled movie showtime and much better customer service. Another shitty chain I've experienced is United Artists. The service isn't horrible, but I think it's bullshit to still charge full current ticket prices when your theaters haven't been updated since 1982.
I have hated REGAL for a long time. Here in Charlotte, Nc, the biggest theater in town (24 screen) and the one with all the bells and whistles, like 3D digital, Imax, digital screens, ect, is a REGAL and it sucks. Here's why it sucks: Unless you are seeing a digital film, or an Imax film, it's going to be scratched. Every print they run is scratched, even on an opening Friday night. This is because they are cheap fucks who don't use projectionists, but rather have the managers thread the films and then start them with a timer from downstairs. And sorry Nick, but the REGAL here does NOT do a screening to check the print. The first time it runs is at the first show. Unless it's a digital film (IE: the manager can't fuck it up) the picture and sound are fucking awful. I hate REGAL.
Not to be too disrespectful, but I don't believe you NEEDED it. You WANTED it.
If sitting down for 2 hours is your idea of what you NEED, maybe its time to get a little worldly perspective and be grateful for the things you do have.
It sucks to hear that you had to drive so far to see a movie that got cancelled with no real advance warning. Having worked for Regal in the past, I'm not surprised to hear about it. In my experience, though, the District Manager would have either had to have known it was going to happen OR ordered it personally, so there is the possibility that the actual theater manager is only partly to blame. At any rate, I hope you crucify any and all of the Regal fuckers that you can when you deal out your retribution!
You had a bad day, and a movie you wanted to see was cancelled (for whatever reason). You experienced poor customer service, but received a free ticket.
Is this really cause for "mulling your next move" in a personal vendetta?
No Regal Cinema has projectioists. They are too cheap and shitty, they just have which ever manager remembers to stars the film start it (usuallt late).
Hey #33: Why don't YOU stop stinking up the internet, get on a plane and go fucking help dig them out if your horse is so fucking high about it.
Nick, aren't you close to 40 years old? You're acting like a spoiled 8 year old who is whining because he didn't get the latest gizmo for his birthday. Haven't you ever gone to a restaurant or store and found that they were inexplicably closed? Most of us have experienced a similar situation and we don’t cry about it or write lengthy diatribes on how we’ve been wronged by the establishment. I empathize with your frustration but put this into perspective and just let it go. The management was wrong to cancel the show..that sucks. But you’re response to this “event” certainly paints a vivid picture of your personality and it isn’t flattering. You come off as an egotistical crybaby who feels as though he is superior to “most people” and entitled to partisan treatment because at the time of the incident you really “needed it”.
What kind of grown man acts like this over a midnight screening of a terrible movie? Jesus…
Its ok Nick, no one listens to your podcast anyways.
While I understand that you went through an obvious series of kinda shitty events to be at that theater, be realistic. What did you really expect the theater to do? While the shitty attitude was definitely not helpful, assuming the theater was "obligated" to show you the movie is moronic. It's not their film, the screening was for a company who were using that theater. It sucks that it was canceled, but for the love of christ did you expect the theater to show the film after the company specifically said that they did not want it screened? Customer service is important, but if I was that manager I am not going to show you a fucking movie that I have been told not to show because Nick Nunziata drove 30 mins in the rain….and what the fuck difference does it make that there were cops around? Did that add to the time of the trip? Did you have to blow through some road blocks? So if I'm the manager, I really don;t think I'd feel the need to screen a movie that I have been told not to because you "needed it". And btw, your bitchfest at the beginning about not buying the tickets online makes no sense. If you had bought the tickets, you would have gotten the money back anyway, and still probably would have received the free pass. It's a shitty situation, but making allusions to "mulling over your next move…" is a little extreme. Next time, take a few hours and think about the situation before publishing your harrowing tale on how you missed a movie.
To use the Haiti situation to troll a movie site is about as inhumane as it gets. Just stop it.
umm…regal manager here….and yeah…i really don't care about any of you lol….i work there so i can see free movies whenever i want…my day would be much better if no customer ever came through the door…of course then i wouldn't have a job so what are ya gonna do? we don't care about corporate, we don't care about customers….they don't pay us enough to care….in fact, we care about as much as you care about what i'm writing right now.
Oh and #38….yeah, there is no ability to start movies from downstairs lol….and yeah we screen every movie….the only time we don't is when people are clamoring for a midnight showing and we don't get the print until thursday….
Your ego truly knows no bounds. The folks involved in the car accident probably had a much worse day than you did.
Also… the fact that you find a day spent making others happy to be "extremely unrewarding" says much more than you probably think it did.
I'm an employee with the Regal group and I have have to admit that your article is one of the most aggravating about theaters I've read.
Let me get the obvious out of the way, if Corporate issues an order, you have to obey what the Corporate office says. You really can't give them the finger and go on with your day, you get your butt fired.
My issue is with this: "The guy had the gall to tell me it's my job to keep checking the showtimes throughout the day. As if it's our job. As if we should just keep refreshing in case they get a wild hair up their ass to kill an advertised showtime."
Yes, it is a customer's responsibility to continue checking showtimes. Because there have been the cases that a pre-scheduled show is canceled or the time is moved. It takes roughly 40min from the time a cancel is made for Fandango to be updated.
But on the flipside, there have been numerous times where midnight shows suddenly appear. I've been working at box office on Thursday evening and at around 9pm I'm told that a midnight show is being put on, Corporate Order. Which of course, aggravates the employees as now we cannot clean the concession stand till around 12:30 and so might not get out of there till 2-3am depending on the size of the stand and how busy the day was.
If you're going to lodge a complaint, lodge it with the corporate office and don't get angry at the employees at the theater. We're doing our job and once again, if we get word from higher up that something must be changed, we must change it.
I understand you're annoyance with the sudden cancellation, that's happened to me before, I go to the theater and the show was canceled. Okay, well I'm annoyed about but so what? Is it really that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things? By the end of the day, it's just a movie and is it so important that you can't take a step back, take a breath and get over it?
Sorry about the situation you found yourself in but, stuff happens. But once again, it is such an offense as to make attacks on people?
WAH!
Enough with the Haiti; there is always something worse happening to somebody else – that doesn't mean I have to take it up the ass. Like you've NEVER COMPLAINED about anything cause you always say to yourself, "Hey, there's people starving in Ethiopia, so I should just let this guy rape my girlfriend"
in as many years as you've been going to midnight shows, not one has been cancelled due to low ticket sales? i find that hard to believe.. this sounds like you were busy all day, weren't keeping track of how unpopular this movie really is, drove in shit weather (which drives the nerves up the wall to begin with) at 11:30 at night, i can almost see the hate sweat running down the monitor.. should of pulled what Aziz Ansari did when he was let down by false IMAX hopes "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!!?" "I'VE GOT 40,000 FOLLOWERS ON TWITTER!"
I haven't used a Regal since my wife got raped in one of their car parks. The staff did absolutely nothing.
On the birght side, you didn't have to see Legion.
30 minutes in the rain…oh how will you ever get that time back?
Come on, try to show a little compassion for the less fortunate, perhaps by not whining about a company making a business decision in a tough economy.
As far as regular business hours go, we HAVE had people roll up during blizzards, risking life and limb, not even knowing for sure if we were open, just to see something in it's 9th week or something that NO ONE is coming to see. I wouldn't even be there if I wasn't getting paid to be, and these assholes are risking their kids' lives to watch a fucking movie. I'd like to imagine that something horrible happened to these people on the way home, that the only clue as to why the hell they were even out in such shitty weather was the ticket stub for the 10:30 pm showing of "TransylMania" that was pried from their dead, frozen fingers. For the record, the District Manager has to approve any early closings (not just cancellations of midnight shows), and we've only closed because of bad weather twice in the last decade, and it was February 13th both times.
Let me say as a long time manager with Regal, our home office cares just as much about your complaint as Jay Leno cares about stealing Conan's time slot. Everything is about business, why spend 30 hours of payroll on the five customers stupid enough to show up to a midnight showing of Legion, I have an idea, contact Regals home office and voice your concern for a lack of customer service. They will mail you more passes so you can use them to watch a movie for "free", just don't forget the $7 tub of popcorn and the $5 Diet Soda so you can watch your weight.
Here's a Regal story. I roll up with 40 students on the first Monday after the opening of SIN CITY in 2005. My illustration class has been discussing the history of comics and graphic novels leading up to this field trip. Ticket girl tells me the scheduled showing has been canceled due to renovations on that particular screen. Of course I'm getting ready to blow a gasket when the manager sees me and 40+ patrons getting ready to walk, so he bounces two people out of some kiddie flick, bribing them with multiple passes and puts SIN CITY on that screen. THAT was the right move – not the move your manager pulled, Nick.
Comment #60-That sounds pretty far-fetched. If something like that is going to happen, renovations or whatever, we cancel the least popular movie, and then we shift stuff around to other theaters to accommodate the rest of the films. Scheduled showtimes of a movie that's been out for 3 days DO NOT get canceled. I'm glad that your experience ended positively, but it seems highly unlikely that it would have had to come to that.
Since they were giving away tickets anyway and you are right they do have to screen it anyway on the Thursday before ( a ritual of watching movies if you have ever worked for a movie theatre). What was it going to hurt to have you guys watch the movie? He can cry corperate all he wants the theatre manager had it within his rights to honor the advertised show.
Why the fuck is anyone even wasting their time shelling out hard earned $$$ to put up with fuckass patrons and dickhead management? Save up, upgrade your home theatre gear and do that shit right in your own personal space. As far as the "gotta see it first run" argument goes, is your world really gonna end if you don't catch it opening night? Don't reward the assholes who could care less about you by enabling their indifferent behaviour. Hit them where they hurt… in their bottom line. Fuckers.
Dude, sorry it went down like that. I work at a regal and they were most certainly bull shitting you. Our theater never cancels a show without at least a week's notice. The only exception to that rule is special showings like a corporation renting out a theater (which you wouldn't have been able to buy tickets for anyways) or sudden unexpected projector problems. I've always treated customers the way I'd like to be treated. No exceptions to that. I can see where they were coming from with not wanting to be there till 2pm (they probably were anyways cause avatar is three freakin hours long) but that's no excuse.
i don`t know where this "without a week`s notice" talk comes from. we can`t even schedule that far ahead of time unless we have specific pre-sale times booked, and even then it`s usually just the new releases. we don`t know what our full friday showtime schedule is going to look like until tuesday anyway, as booking information typically arrives on monday night. and as i said before, thursdays are always late nights for us anyway, as it`s the end of our business week. all late night audiences effect are our current payroll, like how many people are on the clock and for how long. when we lock our doors, we complete our inventory, approve payroll for the week, and finish getting things ready for friday morning, not to mention take care of any maintainance issues we can take care of that can only really be done when customers aren`t around, or at least not in theaters we may need to do work in. midnight audiences usually don`t get in the way. hell, sometimes corporate even gives us a break and lets us do our end-of-week inventory stuff on an earlier day so that we have one less headache to deal with when any midnight shows are expected to be busy. so again, no, staying until 2 a.m. is not an issue at all.
Re: PlanBFromOuterSpace – that's how it went down, and I don't appreciate being essentially called a liar by you. It was the first showing of the day, and perhaps they didn't think a lot of people would show up for an R-rated movie on a Monday before 12noon. This took place at the Regal 14 in Harrisonburg, VA. I can tell you the name of the manager and put you in touch with a number of former students if you would like them to verify what I've told you. Otherwise you can go back to checking the theater floor for gum, as I don't wish to keep you from your appointed rounds.
@the professor- acutally your story does sound far fetched and he didn't call you a liar. That may have happened like that but someone was lying to you. renovations are know well in advance and new movies are never canceled. There is also the possibility you are mistaken that is was opening week of sin city. Otherwise go back to masturbating in mommy and daddy's basement, as I don't wish to keep you from your annointed rounds.
Comment #66-I suppose it's possible that someone on their end dropped the ball, like forgot to move movies around the previous night/before opening, and maybe you were a victim of them making a mistake and being too lazy to fix it. When someone's coming to do extensive work in an auditorium, you know it's going to happen, because NOTHING like that happens overnight (if anything, it happens too late), and like I said, new movies, especially the #1 movie of the weekend, DO NOT get officially canceled when they've only been out for 2 days. The old/unpopular stuff gets canned. Same thing happens when the heat/air goes out, as we try to make the least amount of people (who we warn ahead of time) uncomfortable. Particularly on weekdays, we need every ticket sale we can get, and sometimes the ONLY movies doing business during the day are the new ones. I'm not saying you're a liar, I'm just saying that as far as your reasoning for the scheduling snafu is concerned, you're probably incorrect. If the management there told you any differently, they're the liars. However, pulling up unannounced with a group of 40 people for the first show on a weekday in April and wondering why things might have gone less than smoothly is sort of your fault. It's kind of a dick move really, especially when theaters aren't typically staffed to handle that kind of a rush on a regular Monday afternoon. Also, if you would have called ahead and said "Hey, I'm bringing a big group to this particular show, is that OK?", then there wouldn't have been that cancellation mishap, and there may have been more employees around to accommodate your group.
I have nothing to do with this argument but please planbfromouterspace explain to me how in the fuck is showing up at a movie theatre with 40 people without warning them a dick move??
i don't give a fuck what time of day it is if the theatre has over 40 seats in it then it shouldn't be a problem.
what if 40 individual people show up? it is not a dick move to bring business to a place of business.
Headline 1: "REGAL CINEMA'S CORPORATE OFFICE IS WHY YOU DON'T GET A LEGION REVIEW By Nick Nunziata" — Headline 2: "REVIEW: LEGION By Nick Nunziata" What's wrong with this picture?
I took one for the team.
Well, Alfie, that's easy. On regular non-holiday, non-summer weekdays (such as a Monday afternoon in April), we're staffed about as lightly as we can be. Typically, we'll begin the day with a couple of managers and one regular employee. Now, we're in a smaller market, and I'm sure that the bigger locations are staffed a little more. Anyway, NOT telling us that you're planning to bring a group of 40 people can lead to several problems. You've got the issue that the person brought up before, where the movie was "canceled". While the reasoning behind that person's movie's cancellation seemed less than legit, there IS the possibility that a movie could have a problem (I'm talking the print itself, and not the projector) that prevents it from running at all. No movie to be shown equals complete waste of time and effort on the group's part, upset patrons, the works. They could have called earlier in the weekend or something and left contact info so if any problems were to occur they could be notified. We get school groups, birthday parties, and other such groups that plan ahead all the time. Second, dealing with a group of 40 all at once is a lot different than dealing with 40 individuals that are all doing their own thing, even if they're all going to the same film. Again, we can plan ahead and have extra people come in if need be, so that there aren't any delays in concession, box office, etc. We HAVE had a school bus full of people show up 5 minutes before a show, without us having been warned, and then they're upset when the show starts before they're all situated. It's not up to us to accommodate them in that case, as holding off the show for THEM is an insult and inconvenience to the people that DID show up and get situated well ahead of time. If the person running the group would have called, we could have told them to show up earlier than they did so as not to cause headaches for themselves or disruptions for the other customers. Third, if there's a big group showing up for something without our knowledge, there may not be enough room for them. We ran a show a couple of weekends ago for an organization that told us they would have at least 100 people, which is the original amount of tickets that they'd purchased. Not knowing for sure just how many people were going to show, we made sure to switch theaters around and put the film they were seeing in our largest auditorium. 300 people ended up showing, and had we not known that the group was going to be 3 times the size they had originally planned, we might not have had room for them, and it wouldn't have necessarily been our part. We can jump through hoops for groups if we need to, we just need to know they're coming, when they're coming, and how many people to expect. The sooner the better. In closing, for someone that has "nothing to do with this argument", you sure are a lot mouthier than some of the folks here that do seem to have some sort of beef. Was all the "fuck this, fuck that" necessary, y'know, since you have nothing to do with this argument?
"wouldn't have necessarily been our part"…not our FAULT I meant. My mistake.
Corporate screwed up big time, but I wouldn't blame the guys there. Then again, they treated you like crap regardless, but it's out of their hands.
I've worked at Regal, and at a company as big as that, it takes twice as much work just to try and run it responsibly. If I was a manager there I would have apologized, but if corporate sets down a policy then they have to stick by it. There could be a secret shopper there. If there's an incident during an unauthorized midnight showing, the manager who ran that show will now be the manager who ran an unauthorized show which resulted in a fight/complaint/vandalism/whatever.
Even if someone complained about something during the screening to the corporate office, such as the movie being dimly projected or out of focus, the question's going to be from them why there was a screening in the first place. They'll be sticking their neck out for you, some guy who isn't their boss.
It's not worth the hassle to these guys. Blame the corporate dickheads who make decisions like that.
I won't go to a Regal anymore just because I don't want to deal with people talking. Most people working there don't give a shit about that.
First of all,to the people complaining about Nick complaining…FUCK YOU!!! Its his job to write these colums and he can write about hwatever the hell he feels like. As to the story at hand,I too have been treated like shit by Regal Cinemas…which is why I now drive 45 minutes out of my way to go to a cheaper and better theatre. Its a damn shame that theatres like the Arclight and the Drafthouse arent national chains,but until they are we all have an obligation to only give our money to the theatres that DO give a shit…and they are out there….just keep looking.
I've got your back Nick! Regal Hollywood 24 screwed me bad with an overly advertised midnight showing of Underworld Evolution. I already vowed to never go there again and now I'm reinvigorated with fucking with them. LET ME KNOW WHAT I CAN DO!!!
Comment #75-"Its a damn shame that theatres like the Arclight and the Drafthouse arent national chains,but until they are we all have an obligation to only give our money to the theatres that DO give a shit…"- Now, you do realize the difference between operations that are run independently and those that aren't, right? What makes you think that if these other theaters somehow became a chain that they wouldn't end up the same way, falling into the same trappings? While the intentions would be good, it's impossible to make sure that hundreds of locations would be run with the same attention to detail and quality. Compare it to other industries. Hey, this little family-run restaurant you like might be great, but if there were a hundred of them, do you think it would be staffed any differently than your average Chili's or TGIF? I'm sure these other theaters are great, and I'm curious to see what they're like as a movie fan AND someone that's worked a while in the theater industry, but maybe the people that are able to frequent these types of establishments, and ONLY these establishments, lack the perspective of those that DON'T have nicer places like that to go to. Also, I was not one of the ones complaining about Nick's complaining (which again, was mostly but not completely justified), and because I work in a big theater chain it doesn't mean I have to defend every little thing, but I DO feel the need to point out where people are just clearly wrong or not thinking things through, not trying to come up with a rational explanation for why something happened before saying "Fuck that place!". On a side note, has anyone ever been to a screening that was overbooked, like they had passes for it and everything, but still couldn't get in? My theater doesn't get those, but there is an AMC that's somewhat close that does that all the time. I get that they want to guarantee a full house (free passes=more money spent on concessions), but it's still pretty shady, as that IS a theater that people will take the time to go out of their way for…
you guys are the dumbest pieces of shit in the entire world. corporate made the decision to cancel all midnight shows of legion that had not sold any tickets. they didnt cancel midnight shows all together you stupid fucking cunt. having people stay to run an empty theatre is a huge waste of time and costs the company a lot of money in payroll hours. the fucking retard who commented and said they worked at a cinemark is literally the biggest fucking inbreed backwoods retard i have ever heard of. no wonder you work at a cinemark at not a real fucking theatre and thats why you live in youre fucking moms basement when youre 30. they werent lying through their teeth. when your dm and corporate office tells you to cancel a show YOU FUCKING DO IT YOU DONT HAVE A CHOICE. and they only cancelled ones that hadnt sold any ticketes already. so the fucking dumbass who wrote this article when he checked times AT 6 FUCKING AM deserves everthing he went through because he is a fucking suwanee inbred hick who doesnt have the common fucking sense to check times before he goes to see the movie. reading all these retarded comments has actually made me dumber. thanks, faggots.
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I cant believe ANY of you people think ANY corporation does anything that isn't motivated by profit. by definition, a corporation functions to satisfy its shareholders. it satisfies its costumers only to the extent that it serves the bottom line. run to the next theatre chain…Cinemark/Carmike/AMC whatever. go up and tell them you love them. tell them you hate them. it doesnt matter. i dont criticize you for venting. i am coming down on everyone else who HASNT had this happen and gets on here and shouts "Down with Regal!" when you will get fucked wherever you go. you think AMC stops kids from walking in and talking in a movie more than Cinemark? you think Carmike doesnt scratch prints? go ahead. scream "down with Coke" and drink your Pepsi. see where it gets you.
I am furious that when i call the number to the theater (commonwealth 20, va) all you get is a recording. my son left his bear that he loves there by the archade and i couldnt get ahold of anyone to get it and put it aside for me to come get it the next day. Why isnt there a customer service extension when calling! I will never return to this theater again.
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